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02-10-2016, 08:02 PM
Dana
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Of course there are also at least 2 Documented Aristocrats. From what I have seen it is a rename of the Breakaway to go with the Monarchs and Regis.
My Coach is titled as a Breakaway because in that year NADA had no option for Aristocrat. Insurance companies don't like to insure things they can't see. My documentation is posted and shows it as an Aristocrat. Po ta to or Po tat o


Dana & Lynn
1997 38ft Monarch front entry
Spartan Mountain Master Chassis
Cummins 8.3 325hp
Allison MD-3060 6 speed
22.5 11R
Cummins Factory Exhaust Brake
8000 watt Quiet Diesel Generator
9608-M0022-38MI-4C
Christened Midnight

1972 22ft
Christened Camp Barth
02-10-2016, 08:14 PM
L78steve
I also noticed there are no Breakaways listed in the NADA until 92.
02-11-2016, 05:04 PM
L78steve
Are the 90-91 Regency's with the Gillig chassis air brake and air suspension?
02-11-2016, 05:40 PM
Rusty
Yes. As are the Regencies on Spartan chasses.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
02-11-2016, 06:28 PM
L78steve
Oh good. Going to look at Carols coach soon.
Thanks.
02-11-2016, 06:41 PM
Steve Sorrentino
Ive personally seen this coach.
You can contact me if you wish to.
Steve in Auburn CA.
02-12-2016, 10:50 AM
L78steve
Thank you Steve for your input. It was a pleasure talking to you.
02-12-2016, 05:01 PM
L78steve
If someone wanted to update a 3208 to a Cummins B or C would there be space for it?
Were talking a short V8 verses a straight 6.
I know this is a problem with the Bluebirds up to 1992. Detroit Diesel 6V and 8V series are much shorter than the modern sixes.
02-12-2016, 07:32 PM
Rusty
Having been under Nick Cagle's 32' Regency with the 3208, the driveshaft is quite short. I don't think there's any way a C8.3 could be made to fit. However, the Spartan Regencies had the C8.3.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
02-12-2016, 07:48 PM
L78steve
That's what I figured. The Spartan chassis probably has the rear axle moved farther forward to accommodate the straight 6.
Not that I have an issue with the 3208,just wondering.
02-19-2016, 09:11 AM
L78steve
Hope I don't get the boot for this question but what are opinions out there on the the HMC's?
Compared to Barth.
02-19-2016, 04:37 PM
Rusty
Hawkins? Well-built coaches.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields