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11-21-2010, 09:51 PM
Lance Walton
Electronic Questions
I have two questions concerning my 1993 38 ft Barth Regency. I have the electrical schematic from Spartan and there are two items I need to know about.
1. What is a V.I.M. and where would it be located?
2. Where is the ECU (Electronic (or Engine) Control Unit) located?
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.


Lance & Sue Walton
Previous owner of a
1993 38ft Regency
Cummins 6CTA8.3 300HP
Allison MD3060 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Loveland, CO
11-22-2010, 01:58 PM
Gary Carter
ECM you probably do not have as the electronic controlled engines didn't arrive until '97 or '98.

Do not know what a VIM is. New term to me.


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5.9 Cummins (6B) 300+ HP
2000 Allison
Front entrance
11-22-2010, 03:10 PM
Bill N.Y.
Please send me a copy of the electrical schematic - I'll take a look at it.

bill_ny@barthmobile.com


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11-22-2010, 04:08 PM
Moonbeam-Express
quote:
1. What is a V.I.M. and where would it be located?

Could you mean VIN, Vehicle Identification Number? That would be located on your data tag and on the chassis.




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11-22-2010, 10:51 PM
bud@YXY
Our Barth is an 8.3 with the allison of a 1993 vintage
The allison MD3060 transmission has an electronic control unit-- its located under the transmission control pad by the driver-- this is connected to a control box (contains 5 or 6 relays) that on our coach is located in the electrical box below the driver and is accessed from outside the coach
I have not had cause to find any other electronic control units as yet.

Regards Bud


1993 Breakaway 36ft & 1977 20 ft
Spartan: air ride and brakes & P32(?)
Cummins: 8.3 litre 250hp, PACBrake
Allison 3060 (6 spd)
Front entry, side hallway
7.5 kw diesel gen.
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11-23-2010, 10:45 AM
Lance Walton
Thanks,

I have found an Allison box in the electronic enclosure under the driver's seat. It is mounted on the underside of the body. It has a harness that appears to disappear into the back wall. I hope there are no components located in the space created by the driver's pedestal.

There are two connectors in the electronic enclosure which I would like to know about. On is circular, black and has multiple pins. It is similar to a military type connector. The other is rectangular and has a similar appearance to the diagnostic connectors on automobiles. Even though it has many positions for pins it only has a half dozen or so.
When I get a chance I will get pictures, count the pins, etc. and post what I find.


Lance & Sue Walton
Previous owner of a
1993 38ft Regency
Cummins 6CTA8.3 300HP
Allison MD3060 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Loveland, CO
11-23-2010, 05:22 PM
Gary Carter
The electronic box for the allison is call a TCM or transmission control module.


'92 Barth Breakaway - 30'
5.9 Cummins (6B) 300+ HP
2000 Allison
Front entrance
11-23-2010, 05:23 PM
Gary Carter
Either or both connectors could be diagnostic plugs.


'92 Barth Breakaway - 30'
5.9 Cummins (6B) 300+ HP
2000 Allison
Front entrance