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07-06-2013, 07:05 AM
Danny Z
Roof AC Problem
I went out to work in the Euro the other day and the roof AC doesn't seem to be blowing cold. It's about 4 years old. I cleaned the filters and still not cool. Is there anything under the shroud that could need cleaning, like the cooling fins in the house unit? It's a Coleman.


79 Barth Classic
07-06-2013, 07:50 AM
DougZ
Danny, take the shroud off completly and search for mud dobbers. Remember the one we took off was completely full of their nests. They can attack the contacts when they are building. It probably will be something as simple as a relay. It's too new to have trouble with.



W4JDZ
07-06-2013, 06:20 PM
Danny Z
I took off the cover, and everything looks good. No mud dawbers or anything like that. I'll clean the coils tomorrow and see if that helps, but they don't appear dirty, so I'm not optimistic.


79 Barth Classic
07-06-2013, 06:50 PM
Gary Carter
Quick question. Is the compressor starting and running. Two totally different problems.


'92 Barth Breakaway - 30'
5.9 Cummins (6B) 300+ HP
2000 Allison
Front entrance
07-06-2013, 10:12 PM
Steve VW
I'm assuming you have fan but no cool. Does the compressor cycle at all?

Mine has a power switch and a thermostat on the panel.

With unit turned off, turn the thermostat slowly lock to lock. You should be able to hear it click in and out.

TURN OFF BREAKER!!! confusion

When you take the inside cover off there is a connector plug in there to check. Check wires on the power switch and the thermostat, the spade connectors are often loose.

There really isn't much else to check hmm


9708-M0037-37MM-01
"98" Monarch 37
Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison
Cummins 8.3 325+ hp
07-06-2013, 10:31 PM
Rusty
In the FL heat, the Usual Suspects are the start and run caps. If the compressor doesn't run, try replacing those before major surgery.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

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In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

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07-22-2013, 06:38 AM
Danny Z
Finally got a day off to look at the AC. Removed the ceilimg cover and everything looked fine, no burnt wires or plugs, everything tight. Removed the bonnet and same, everything clean and tight. Compressor doesn't appear to be running, no noise and tubes are ambient temp. Not knowing what caps are or where they are, is there anything I can do before hauling it in to be checked?


79 Barth Classic
07-22-2013, 01:32 PM
Rusty
The capacitor/s (may be one or two) look like a small can with terminals on the top.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
07-22-2013, 04:39 PM
Danny Z
Thanks Rusty, before I just lay out bucks, can these be tested. I have a very basic multimeter.


79 Barth Classic
07-22-2013, 05:47 PM
ccctimtation
Danny, you can but I don't think with a regular VOM. Good news is they are probably under $10 each and maybe that for the pair. The electric supply house may be able to test for you.
Do not hold onto the two connections, the capacitor will have enough jolt to make your lights turn on. This could be a test but even one that is failing might light you up.
07-22-2013, 06:24 PM
Rusty
AC caps can't be tested the same way as DC caps; take them to an electrical or AC supply - some places have a tester. I replaced the ones on mine and found the real issue was a bad spade connector.

There's also a relay activated by the 12VDC from the 'stat that provides power to the compressor - that could be bad. The fans are powered through a different relay.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
07-22-2013, 10:26 PM
ccctimtation
R,I think the answer was take em out get new ones and hope. Yes?
09-03-2013, 03:18 PM
Danny Z
Rusty wins the kewpee doll, it was the relay.


79 Barth Classic
09-03-2013, 04:21 PM
Rusty
Cheap and easy is good! mechanic cheers


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
09-03-2013, 05:11 PM
wally povajnuk
quote:
Originally posted by Rusty:
Cheap and easy is good! mechanic cheers
cheap and easy is good but from what I can gather these people were without cooling for two months wally van-isle.