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OK, here's my first of many newby questions to come in Tech Talk. We recently purchased a 1990 (1989?) 28' Barth Regal.

On the drive back home, one of the kitchen fan rubber mounts came loose (among a few other things, but those are for other posts). I expected there to be a bolt or screw going through the whole thing into the housing, but it's glued!

Does anyone know what type of adhesive to use to fix it? My wife is embarrassed that I'm posting such a question, but with my luck I'd try something that eats the rubber or just won't work.

Here's a pic, albeit a little blurry:
 
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Shoe Goo. Let dry for 3 days.

These things need to be perfectly aligned to avoid constant stress. They also get old and hard. Drilling a few holes will make it more flexible and less likely to strain the glue joint.

Here's another idea:

http://www.zoro.com/i/G3394937...ilFBkb0ZUaAn3H8P8HAQ


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Welcome to the Forums! I use E-6000 glue, available in the craft section at Walmart.


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3M 5200 unless you think you might want it removed in some future date, then use 4200. 5200 can be released with a special solvent but I don't think it gets very easily cleaned. Both generally found in boat oriented stores.
 
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3M 5200 is rated at 700 psi, while Shoe Goo is 3800 and E-6000 is 3500 psi. Last two made by the same company.


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Looks like a Kool-o-matic fan.

Not made anymore.

Switches and motors like to wear out at this service age.

Also a huge amp drawer, but does move a ton of air.

Good thing it is mounted in a 14" scuttle and can be replaced with any fan or A/C...
 
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Thanks everyone! Bought some Shoe Goo, cleaned up the old isolator (quarter-sized layer of old adhesive) and mounting platform, applied and let it set up for three days. Just re-installed the fan. Seems to be holding well. Couldn't quite figure out how to perfectly align things, as there wasn't any give anywhere for adjustment that I could find.

It's a surprising design, unless my fan has been modified from original. The entire weight of the fan is held by three glued rubber isolators.

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The entire weight of the fan is held by three glued rubber isolators.

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Older Cessnas had the entire instrument panels hanging from just a few smaller ones. It was my practice to rotate them 180 degrees once a year.


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Bill, rotating seems like a good idea, since they were all sagging a bit.

Morgan, the double-ended isolators are also a good idea, but then I'd have to learn how to cut threads (in a confined space). I just wanted to get one fix under my belt...maybe the next time one falls off.
 
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This fan is annoying me. I had the coach storage for a couple months, and when I brought it out I noticed the fan wasn't working because another isolator had come loose. The same one I glued to the housing before, but this time on the support bracket side. Checking them out further, another was half off the housing.

Trying to decide:
1. Re-glue them all
2. Replace fan because it's old, a power suck, and likely to drive me crazy.
3. Replace all the isolators with the double-sided threaded type that bill h suggested above. Will take me hours and likely before I get everything angled right I'll have to drill 1,000 holes.

Opinions?


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Drill 250 bigger holes and use a fender washer... Actually if you can cut slots for adjustment ... Or just drill a bigger hole with fender washers... Just not 250 holes..
 
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dr. bart, the thing is, if the new isolators have male threads on both ends, the holes will have to be threaded, right? No room for error.


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Any other suggestions? Should I do more barthmobile searching?


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This fan is no longer made.

It is a heavy duty fan and can move a lot of air.

Unfortunately, the motor is rather large and pulls several amps (I can't remember, but I think it's between 6 and 8 amps on the high setting).

This is a huge draw on your electrical system.

I have this same fan.

The following has failed:

4-way Switch
Motor
Isolators

...The Kool-O-Matic is more of a Prob-Lem-Atic...

I plan to replace mine and not spend one more dime or minute of my time attempting to rebuild this dinosaur.

It is also a place for bugs to gain access to your vehicle...
 
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