Removal of rear tires to do brakes

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02-16-2010, 10:19 AM

Capt Bob

Removal of rear tires to do brakes

Ok getting ready to start rear brakes and was told this morning that i need a square socket also along with the 1 1/2 inch socket for the removal of rear tires was wondering about that, this is on my 85--35ft Regency on MCC chassis

02-16-2010, 11:16 AM

Nick Cagle

Bob, the square socket is to remove the lug nuts/studs from the inner wheel after the outer wheel has been removed.

Nick

02-16-2010, 11:32 AM

Bill N.Y.

rear tires:

here is an image, at the 2 O'clock position, of an inner square drive nut.

First you remove the outer nut - then the outer tire - then the inner nut - then the inner tire. Each tire is held on by its own mounting nut.

http://barthmobile.com/eve/for...771083813#1771083813

Please get part numbers and item mfg with prices. Have Connie take some pics.

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02-16-2010, 12:14 PM

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02-16-2010, 01:25 PM

Capt Bob

i was told i need to get a square impact socket for removal of square bolts, does that sound correct, i immagine they are pretty tight,,,,,ill have Connie take some photos for future reference

02-16-2010, 03:07 PM

Rusty

There is a combination socket for Budd wheels (it looks like you have 'em). It isn't cheap, however.

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02-16-2010, 04:26 PM

Danny Z

Here's a quick stupid question regarding GM P30 coaches. Do we have to deal with this situation if we ever have to remove our duals?

02-16-2010, 04:37 PM

Capt Bob

thanks rusty, i needed the 1 1/2 in socket, glad i didnt buy one yet, will probally order tomorrow $30 includes shippoing,

02-17-2010, 02:59 PM

Capt Bob

well i purchased the budd socket ((1 1/2 in with a 13/16 center square)) tested it for a fit and seemed alittle loose then tried a 1 7/16 socket and that was to small am thinking metric , probally a 38mm,,,,wonder if that will change the 13/16 square nut ?

02-17-2010, 10:32 PM

Shadow man

Just curious, do any of you know what your wheels are supposed to be torqued to? Is it the same for all Barths or does it vary any?

02-20-2010, 09:56 AM

lenny and judy

capt did you see the video on torque multipliers just below this discussion ?
lenny

02-20-2010, 02:29 PM

Bill N.Y.

quote:
Originally posted by Danny Z:
Here's a quick stupid question regarding GM P30 coaches. Do we have to deal with this situation if we ever have to remove our duals?

I don't know on the P30 Danny. Do you see anything that looks like a square head on the inside of the stud? You can easily see that without removing the outer tire. Instead of a circular stud with threads going to the end, it'll look like a square bolt head.

On my Gasoline Powered Ford with the Oshkosh/John Deere chassis I have that same Budd style inner and outer nuts too.

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02-21-2010, 06:47 PM

billyt53

The P-30 only uses the typical Lug. No special tools required

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02-21-2010, 08:32 PM

bill h

quote:
Originally posted by Shadow man:
Just curious, do any of you know what your wheels are supposed to be torqued to? Is it the same for all Barths or does it vary any?

Each chassis model calls for a different torque, mine depending on the lug size. The 84 P30, for example, calls for either 110-140 lb ft (for 9/16" lugs) pr 130-180 lbs ft for 5/8" lugs)

My 19.5 wheels call for 130-180 lbs ft.

02-21-2010, 08:52 PM

Shadow man

You guys have it easy.

I have to be between 450-500 ft lbs on my bus. Good thing i have a torque multiplier, set my torque wrench for 50 lbs and i am good.