Shadowman: be careful what you wish for!

outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns

Sounds like Toronto! On the bright side, the bangers mostly just shoot each other, fighting over drug territory.

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Originally posted by Dick Dubbs:
Shadowman: be careful what you wish for!

outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns

raise rottys and a glock 40 for backup!

What i was wishing for Dick is for uniform rules/laws so that when you cross from one state where the manner in which you transport a firearm is legal and go into another state you are not suddenly illegal and subject to arrest and jail.

Is a little confusing to me being born and raised in Texas the discussion here.
No I mean really: -everyone- doesn't travel -everywhere- as displayed?
I check the laws as I cross state lines, but choose to have a Concealed Carry License and carry the trusty Springfield 45ACP as my calling card. Normally if you have a CCL and a hand gun you're fairly safe with some notable exceptions: CA, NY and a few others. Long guns are a completely different animal legally. I would rather have a compact scattergun for self protection, but legally in the Barth, crossing state lines if you have your states Concealed Carry License you should feel fairly safe legally anywhere under the stars and bars. And the perps don't want the business end of a .45...

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Originally posted by Shadow man:
What i was wishing for Dick is for uniform rules/laws so that when you cross from one state where the manner in which you transport a firearm is legal and go into another state you are not suddenly illegal and subject to arrest and jail.

Yes, it would be nice, but uniform laws are most likely to come from the Feds. That would mean Rahm Emmanuel, Eric Holder, Chuck Shumer, etc would be making the rules.

As far as a CCW permit, there are more and more states honoring each others' permits. That is a good trend.

http://www.gunlaws.com/index.htm

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry.pdf

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/#?st=NC

are good sites for detailed information. The last site, from the NRA, has some good BATF and TSA links, as well.

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http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/#?st=NC

Bill,

What a great site!! Thanks

I went down the list of every state I pass through going between Florida and NH and I'm wondering if some folks aren't making a lot to do about nothing.

For most of the Southern states, only a handgun seems restricted. For most of the Northern states, it seems they want a FID card. NJ seemed the most complex, but my read is a shotgun is OK to transport in a locked case. I'm considering my locking device in a cabinet a locked case BTW.

So my conclusion so far is that shotguns are the least restricted, hell - even the Brits allow those!! Handguns are big trouble. Stay away from Boston and NY City. Don't get pulled over!!!

One can never keep a rouge cop from interpreting the law for their own purposes, but I plan to have my new book on gun laws with highlights to do some roadside educating if needed.

I'll still take my chances with a Judge over a Thug any day!!!!!!!!!!

I think you have a false sense of security regarding concealed weapons permits. Surprising how many states do not recognize permits from another state.....there again it would be nice if the states got together and a permit from one state was good everywhere. It would end a lot of confusion and misinformation on what is legal and what is not and where,......never gonna happen of course.

This is not a concealed weapons permit, that is something far more strict. It is listed as a FID (Firearms Identification Card).

I would like to reiterate the seriousness of Va & DC. Try driving in these two areas with a radar detector on your windshield. You may be stopped if you have a GPS (not turned on) and the officer thinks it is a radar detector. They would stay behind you looking for the map on the GPS. No map,you may see blue lights. RD are confiscated on the spot..............

It's doubtful that anything a Barth owner would do would cause a search for "illicit" firearms.

Sadly, legislators and other politicians tend not to be the brightest lights in the chandelier...

I'm going to apply for a Florida Concealed permit, because, all I need to do is to submit my DD-214, showing military service (actually, I was an instructor on the M-1, M1A1, and M1911/1911A).

However, my main rationale is that I carry a firearm because I'm not strong enough to carry a policeman.

Rusty, I hope you are correct re. DD 214 &CCP.
I was lead to believe t5hat a DD-214 will get you a FID. I have an app for FL that I dragged along up here to PA and it is a pain to complete the process. I also heard the FL is < 9 + mos. behind in issuing permits,,,,,,bureaucratic red tape. If you have better info than I, please let me know.

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Dick.

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Originally posted by Rusty:
It's doubtful that anything a Barth owner would do would cause a search for "illicit" firearms.

I have read that dope dealers like to use respectable looking older couples in RVs to move their product, with the idea that they don't look like the stereotypical Miami Vice perp, and, as such, would not be subject to scrutiny from LE.

Of course, LE has grown wise to that, and we could be targeted for search by LE. I was stopped once down by the border. The Border Patrol asked if their dog could do a sniff test. It was over in a minute.

Interestingly, I offered to remove my own dog, but they said, no, it wasn't necessary. Their dog COMPLETELY ignored our dog's attentions. Our scaredy cat ran and hid, of course. I was impressed by the brevity and professionalism of both the patrolmen and the dog. What was interesting was that we had a number of fully automatic and/or silenced weapons, as we were traveling to or from my son's SEAL compound at Coronado to a civilian range, where they did a lot of their training. He often treated me to a range day. As we loaded up, I asked him about the legality, and he said it was all legal. Military officer and all that. I was stressing a little, but, they were after dope only, and the dog was all that went beyond the entry steps.

Working at the airport, I was really impressed by the bomb and dope-sniffing dogs.

Rusty is correct. A honorable discharge, a copy of a DD214, a copy of your fingerprints and $117.00 is all you need. I'm now in the process of renewing my Florida PTC (had one when I lived here prior to moving to Tennessee. The glitch now is there is a three month backup due to so many applicants due to our national problems,it's easier to steal than work. (according to the newspaper). I've been advised just keep using my Tennessee permit since FL & TN hold hands. Florida encourges seniors to protect themselves, so I qualify as I leaning on 82.........

Coming out of Yuma north to Quartzsite or going east towards Phoenix you have to go thru inspection stations where they are looking for illegals and drugs. They use dogs to sniff your coach and toad as you slowly drive thru after asking where you are coming from. Also twice they have pulled over all diesel powered vehicles to dip the fuel tanks to check for off road fuel.....big fine if you get caught and from what i have heard if you have ever used it they can still detect it even after you have run 5 or 6 tanks of legal fuel thru the rig.