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Nick,
You already have my data tag info but thought it maybe of some use to have a pic of the tag as well.
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Nick, I have added more floor plan and equipment details to my 10/18 post in this thread.

Hope it helps.


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Hey Nick. I have another Tag for you

9210 0163 38RG2B


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Hi Bill NY and Nick,

Sorry I didn't get my data tag number to you before this. I never had it written down at home and every time I thought to send it to you the coach was parked at my storage lot.

Well here it is: 9202-0159-36RG-13. I have added it to my profile as well.

If you want any specific info on my coach, just ask.

It is in the shop right now in need of some suspension work. We are in touch with Gillig, but we have not yet narrowed down the specific details on the chassis in order to get the specific parts information. It appears the there where numerous variations on their chassis. They requested the maker of the suspension and whether or not had a "stacked" or "straight" frame. I'll make a separate post on this in "Tech Talk" when I have the details.

Bill G


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92 (Feb.) Regency 36ft
300hp Cummins
Gillig Chassis (1990 build date)
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Nick, My Regency tag is 8910-0135-32RDG-B1, center isle, sofa, sink, stove, pantry and closet on drivers side. The pullout table, refrig, bath and shower is on the passenger side. So the B1 must be center isle with sink, etc being on the drivers, and the B2 would be the sink etc, on the passenger side.
Notice too, that between 10/89 and 10/92, there were just 28 Regencys built during a 3 year time period.

P.S. - Wow then with the above, 2/92 to 10/92, just four Regencys were built in 8 months! Getting interesting. This shows how the sales had slowed.

Below is a pic of my floorplan.

Stagecoach, my coach has a 3208T cat which is 250 HP turbocharged and yours is a 3208TA, which is turbocharged and aftercooler. Started learning on some of this. If you need any drawings on anything, I have about everything on the coach.

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1990 Barth Regency
32RDGB1 Wide Body
3208 Cat 250 HP
Gillig Chassis
Center aisle
 
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Hey Sky,

Thanks for the offer. I also have a lot of stuff on my Stagecoach including the original drawings and notebooks of info on the chassis, engine, etc. I'm still wondering about what the engine is. I've seen info referring to it as a Cat 3208TA and also as a 3208T. I didn't know the signifcance of the "TA" until now.

By the way, how were you able to post a drawing of your coach? I'd love to do that since mine is a side aisle. It doesn't seem there were many of these out there.


Bill, Sharron, Hayley and Bridgett


1990 38' Regency Widebody [RDG-B), Anniversary Edition, Cat 3208TA - 300HP, Gillig Chassis, Side Aisle

"Stagecoach"
1990 38' Regency Widebody (RDG-B)
Anniversary Edition
Cat 3208TA - 300HP
Gillig Chassis
Side Aisle

 
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Sky. When your coach was advertized for sale by californiacool it was described as a "25th Anniversary Special Edition".
Do you know what made it a special edition?


1990 Regency 34'
Cummins 6CTA 8.3 240hp
Spartan Chassis,
4 speed Allison MT643
 
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A turbocharger compresses the air, which heats it up; an aftercooler (a/k/a, "charge air cooler") lowers the temperature of the air (generally by around 150°F to 250°F), allows more power and efficiency, and a lower EGT.


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Don, I really don't know what that is. On the build sheet, it has "Exterior Paint Details Silver Anniversary Edition." Other than that I Do not know.
Towerguy, here is a pic of it, same color as your. sky



1990 Barth Regency
32RDGB1 Wide Body
3208 Cat 250 HP
Gillig Chassis
Center aisle
 
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Originally posted by sky:
Don, I really don't know what that is. On the build sheet, it has "Exterior Paint Details Silver Anniversary Edition."


1990 would be the silver anniversary of 1965. I thought the were in business a little before that and didn't start building Motohomes until after that. I wonder what they were celebrating?
Nick
 
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Regency floor plans might be a little trickier than I thought but that doesn't come as a surprise anymore. We have a total of ten Regencies but of those 4 were built in about 8 months. We have tag 0159, 0160, 0163, and 0164. Now just when I think they are starting to make sense along comes 0159 with the last two digits 13 and all the others are one number and one letter. Why are they doing that to me. I hope it is really 1B and the tag is just hard to read.

Don in Niagara, the proud owner of 0140 reports C3 with curb side kitchen, center aisle, queen bed, side door, standard 96" width.

Hawk-57, the proud owner of 0164 reports 3C with center aisle, queen bed, front door, wide body 102" width.

I had thought that Barth had simply reversed the alpha-numeric designations but a front door and a side door certainly can't be the same floor plan. Also one coach is 6 inches wider than the other.

Towerguy, the proud owner of 0120 only has the one character "B" at the end of his tag. It is a side aisle, side door, queen bed, wide body.

My own coach, number 0160 last characters 2C, is drivers side kitchen, center aisle, twin beds, side door, wide body.

Now I'm starting to wonder if you have to combine the floor plan with the length. Does 2C mean something different for a 32 or 34 or 36 or 38 foot coach?

Maybe we just need all 3000 tags and the building specification for each and a mainframe computer that can sort through all the permutations.

Nick
 
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From: Idaho Gold Miner
Re: data tags.
Seems my tag is quite different than most. Could there be more than one ? Still looking. Here's what I've got.
Mfd by Barth, Inc. 0019MCC35A
Date of Manufacture 6/16/81
Inc. Veh. Mfd. by Motorcoach Corp.
Date of manufacture 5/81
GVWR 20,000

GAWR Fnt 7,500 W/9R 22.5X tires, 22.5 rims, at 95 PSI cold single

Rear 12,500 W/9R22.5X tires, 22.5 rims, at 95 PSI cold duals
VIN S-1-05-RS-00023
From documents found in the vehicle I think I have a 1981 Regency, MCC w/ 8.2L Detroit Diesel "Fuel Pincher", 36' pusher. It has 4 wheel disc, air over hyd. brakes, Meassured lenght is 36' but ID tag makes me suspect 35'. Will search for more data today and post any results. Any info on this coach would be appreciated. Thanks,

Found another tag in the pass. side engine compartment. Has chassis #S105RS00023

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I don't know if you have our data tag yet. This is the number from the 1992 Barth Mobile Office/Command Center. 9108-3753-22S32

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While looking for something else, I ran across this post:

The 1987 Regency was a city bus chassis built by
Regency in the SF Bay area for about 5 years. For info
or parts, contact Motor Coach Restoration, Lincoln IL.
Les Hoagland has purchased lots of tooling, and has
parts for the chassis. They specialize in FMC coaches,
but lots of them were on the Regency chassis also.

From Lee Merriman,

If it is a MCC it has an individual suspension system for each wheel. A
Gillig does not have. Some Regency's were made on the Gillig and MCC, which
was the former FMC before Barth bought the Chassis. The only person who has
parts for the FMC is in Lincoln, IL. Also some Regency's were built on
Spartan Chassis. If I can be of any further help let me know. Lee ...end of post.

Does this shed any light on the 84 MCC Regency that had "Regency Prod Inc" on the data tag? It seems to point towards Barth buying another coach or possibly a chassis that the Regency was based on and might explain the difference in numbers for the Regency's. Am I barking up the wrong tree?


Bill, Sharron, Hayley and Bridgett


1990 38' Regency Widebody [RDG-B), Anniversary Edition, Cat 3208TA - 300HP, Gillig Chassis, Side Aisle

"Stagecoach"
1990 38' Regency Widebody (RDG-B)
Anniversary Edition
Cat 3208TA - 300HP
Gillig Chassis
Side Aisle

 
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Does this shed any light on the 84 MCC Regency that had "Regency Prod Inc" on the data tag? It seems to point towards Barth buying another coach or possibly a chassis that the Regency was based on and might explain the difference in numbers for the Regency's.
You would want to read this post for a better answer to that question.


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8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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