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Ok, got the Nose on the ground and did a short 10 mile test drive. Looks like it was a plugged brake line. The Barth stops straight and even a bit better than before. The pedal is ok but if I pump it a couple of times I can get a wee bit more pedal, so I think I'll bleed it again. Thanks again for the information.


25 Ft Glassnose, 2792, 1982
454 Engine
Plain Jane Interior
Original Paint
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Here is a pic with the carpet back a bit further, no sign of an access plate!



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454 Engine
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Original Paint
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It a big oval plate that is secured with machin screws. The plate in your picture looks like mine. If you scrape around the edges you find 4 screws. There is a rubber gasket between the plate and the floor.The Master Cylinder lines up with the frame rail.


1993 32' Regency Wide Body, 4 speed Allison Trans, Front Entry door, Diamond Plate aluminum roof &
1981 Euro 22' w Chevy 350 engine and TH 400 tranny
 
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https://www.google.com/imgres?...3MDc&iact=mrc&uact=8
See if this shows the panel.


1993 32' Regency Wide Body, 4 speed Allison Trans, Front Entry door, Diamond Plate aluminum roof &
1981 Euro 22' w Chevy 350 engine and TH 400 tranny
 
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https://www.google.com/imgres?...3MDc&iact=mrc&uact=8
See if this shows the panel.


Wow that is nice my glass nose as you can see has nothing like that! I wonder what is the difference and why, mine is an 81 chassis...Your dog house sides are lower than mine and mine is closer to the gas pedal!

The wider dog house in my unit would take up a quarter of the plate in your picture. I will scrape that area when I bleed the brakes again just to make sure.


25 Ft Glassnose, 2792, 1982
454 Engine
Plain Jane Interior
Original Paint
Picture by Kevin
 
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Hey I can get pictures using Edge, just do a copy on the URL selection in PB and paste in the message box, things are easier than opening Explorer,, Whoopee!!!


25 Ft Glassnose, 2792, 1982
454 Engine
Plain Jane Interior
Original Paint
Picture by Kevin
 
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A vehicle of this weight really needs disc brakes all the way around not just in the front.

Is there a conversion for the back drums, that will not lead me into the poor house??


25 Ft Glassnose, 2792, 1982
454 Engine
Plain Jane Interior
Original Paint
Picture by Kevin
 
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I am looking at your picture and I can see the outline of the missing panel just where I showed you. Look closely at the right side of th picture and there it is! As for brakes, you do not need disc brakes in the rear on a truck. The rear brakes contribute 10% of the total stopping forces. They get their greatest wear when backing up. We have not had any issues with the drums on our 22 ft. Glasnose.


1993 32' Regency Wide Body, 4 speed Allison Trans, Front Entry door, Diamond Plate aluminum roof &
1981 Euro 22' w Chevy 350 engine and TH 400 tranny
 
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I am looking at your picture and I can see the outline of the missing panel just where I showed you. Look closely at the right side of the picture and there it is! As for brakes, you do not need disc brakes in the rear on a truck. The rear brakes contribute 10% of the total stopping forces. They get their greatest wear when backing up. We have not had any issues with the drums on our 22 ft. Glasnose.


1993 32' Regency Wide Body, 4 speed Allison Trans, Front Entry door, Diamond Plate aluminum roof &
1981 Euro 22' w Chevy 350 engine and TH 400 tranny
 
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Don't know what happened, tried to correct spelling and it just re-posted itself.


1993 32' Regency Wide Body, 4 speed Allison Trans, Front Entry door, Diamond Plate aluminum roof &
1981 Euro 22' w Chevy 350 engine and TH 400 tranny
 
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I am looking at your picture and I can see the outline of the missing panel just where I showed you. Look closely at the right side of th picture and there it is! As for brakes, you do not need disc brakes in the rear on a truck. The rear brakes contribute 10% of the total stopping forces. They get their greatest wear when backing up. We have not had any issues with the drums on our 22 ft. Glasnose.


Tom you are having a fig newton, I stripped the area down to the almost bare metal, some paint or something left there, check these two pictures,,,no access plate!!!!!!!





25 Ft Glassnose, 2792, 1982
454 Engine
Plain Jane Interior
Original Paint
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Well, now that the area is so well cleared out just get an air chisel and remove that offending metal! Sawsall needed here..? Mechanic ROTFLMAO


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"98" Monarch 37
Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison
Cummins 8.3 300 hp
 
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I think it was Beetle Bailey that said, "It's amazing how many holes there are if you just uncover them."


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I find it curious that our Euros, only 38 apart down the assembly line, are so different. You don't have an access panel for the MC, and now I find out you have drums on the rear.


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I find it curious that our Euros, only 38 apart down the assembly line, are so different. You don't have an access panel for the MC, and now I find out you have drums on the rear.


From what they tell me at the parts stores in that era, four versions of the P30 were built, step van, motor home chassis, with and without drum brakes, and stripped van. So who can tell what Chevy did to what! I checked back a little further than what the pictures show to where Barth had chalked in some sheet aluminum and the started the coach structure.

Another thing, my radiator is mounted for vertical flow and all the others seem to be mounted for cross flow. Steve was surprised to see that, seems like they used the same radiator though.


25 Ft Glassnose, 2792, 1982
454 Engine
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Original Paint
Picture by Kevin
 
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