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I bought this 1987 Barth today from an insurance auto auction with hail damage. Unfortunately, I purchased it from pictures,and have not actually put my eyes on it yet. I have the vin# if anyone can direct me to a site that has a vin decoder?
Thanks for any help....johnnyb Savannah,Tn

 
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What is the Vin#?

Based on your image you've got a Regency that was produced in/after April of 1987 and it is most likely a 34' - 38' Gillig Chassis with a 3208 Cat Engine.

Edit: Nope... upon further reflection, with those 6 lug nuts, I'm more inclined to go with the MCC Chassis and a 8.2l Detroit and it'll be 35' long. Your vin# should start with a 1RP

Please supply an image of your data tag located behind and above the driver's side seat.

It looks like this. With that image we can tell you much more about your coach.



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Regis Widebody1990 Barth Regis Widebody
8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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I wonder if this was the coach owned by towerguy. He salvaged it out after hail damage and the insurance co. took it over. I thought it had been auctioned off a long time ago but the image looks very close to what I remember. I only saw it once.


Ed
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230 Cummins, Allison 6 speed
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Originally posted by MWrench:
I wonder if this was the coach owned by towerguy. He salvaged it out after hail damage and the insurance co. took it over. I thought it had been auctioned off a long time ago but the image looks very close to what I remember.
Hey Ed, Towerguy had a different coach.


˙ʎ˙u ןןıq- „ǝןƃuɐ ʇuǝɹǝɟɟıp ɐ ɯoɹɟ pןɹoʍ ǝɥʇ ʇɐ ʞooן ɐ ƃuıʞɐʇ sı ǝɟıן oʇ ʇǝɹɔǝs ǝɥʇ„

Regis Widebody1990 Barth Regis Widebody
8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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You can decode your Gillig Vin here:

http://truckroadservice.com/ba...llig_vin_decoded.pdf

I also see its in the Data Tag. Project...


food for thought... "...Prejudice is an emotional commitment to ignorance.."
Nathan Rutstein

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1991 early XL-style (maybe 1 of 2?) Breakaway... but prior to that actual (XL) designation...
2nd Barth w/Cat 3208T 250 hp motor
4 spd MT643 Allison trans
Gilig Air suspension chassis/brakes
Data Tag: 9010 3694 34-BG-1B
 
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Originally posted by Mike/Cindi W:
I also see its in the Data Tag. Project...
That coach, I believe, is probably an MCC Chassis. The data tag you see in my post was to help him located his tag only.


˙ʎ˙u ןןıq- „ǝןƃuɐ ʇuǝɹǝɟɟıp ɐ ɯoɹɟ pןɹoʍ ǝɥʇ ʇɐ ʞooן ɐ ƃuıʞɐʇ sı ǝɟıן oʇ ʇǝɹɔǝs ǝɥʇ„

Regis Widebody1990 Barth Regis Widebody
8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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Originally posted by Bill N.Y.:
The data tag you see in my post was to help him located his tag only.


And it did say that too.. Roll Eyes


food for thought... "...Prejudice is an emotional commitment to ignorance.."
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M/C-W

1991 early XL-style (maybe 1 of 2?) Breakaway... but prior to that actual (XL) designation...
2nd Barth w/Cat 3208T 250 hp motor
4 spd MT643 Allison trans
Gilig Air suspension chassis/brakes
Data Tag: 9010 3694 34-BG-1B
 
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My vin is 1RP1A5869G1U51053. I plan to pick it up at Copart in Huntsville, Al on Monday. Looks like it has 2 tires ruined on right rear. Probably driven in to auction flat! Let you know how it looks when I get it back.
 
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My vin is 1RP1A5869G1U51053.
That vin number, as listed, is incorrect somehow. Have them recheck it. It's probably 1RP1A5865G1U51053 as the check digit did not match.

If you think that I might not know what I'm talking about when it comes to vin#'s read a few of my posts where I've informed our members ahead of time about an incorrect vin# Gillig < > same coach

1994

A vin# check digit is just pure math as you'll see if you read the first two links.

The third link is to someone who just got stuck in a mixup a few years prior and then bought the coach from someone who knew it was incorrect but sold it knowing it was wrong. In that one "I talked to the member who owned it at the time", he read it off his data tag but then sold it to someone after he removed that tag.

In the end it did work out for all our members so don't fret too much. Just keep at it until it's fixed.

What do I know about this coach? This, post April of 87, Barth is 35' long and was originally made with a 8.2l Detroit on an MCC Frame. It has a 4 wheel independent suspension with air over hydraulic brakes. It was one of the last frames made by MCC as the "G"1U51053 part of the vin stands for 1986. All of the other MCC chassis before that, from our files, were made in 1985 or before. That is of course if these numbers hold up.

Don't ever snap an axle, if you're stuck in mud, ice, snow, don't rock it out just have it towed.

Read this post. Many members love their MCC Chassis coaches and know of workarounds.

Leslie Hoagland has passed away, but it was our understanding that his children picked up where he left off...

Just doing a quick search however I'm left feeling uneasy. It appears that the only other aftermarket MCC parts and repair shop is now closed.

Please get us a picture of that data tag for our files. Ask the auction house for one before you go.

Low on the list, with two digits off, but I'm also going to toss this one in here to hedge my bet a little Big Grin. 1RP1A5867F1U51053


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Regis Widebody1990 Barth Regis Widebody
8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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If there is one person I know who does know what he's talking about, it's Bill. Of course, I'm biased because I see him as a "man above all men"

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Went to pick up the Barth today,but things did not work out as I had hoped. First step was putting on two right rear tires. Didn't have the right size socket for the lug nuts. After a 10 mile ride got the lug nut off to find I now needed a 7/8" socket to remove the studs to get the inner dual off! While checking this out I realized that the towing company had pulled the drive shaft and the caps and bolts were nowhere to be found. Someone had also stolen the starting battery, so I had to use a jumper box and cables to roll the 8.2 over. Started first rotation!! Then the generator fired up on the second rotation! I was on a roll, I thought. The accelerator did not work and at this point I was about burnt out. I got one tire on the right rear and called a tow company. He will have it at my shop on Tuesday! Could not find the data plate. More to follow.......
 
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Look behind the curtain near the driver seat for the data tag.
 
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Hello members! Update here! Johnnyb sold this Barth to another person after he got the Barth rolling. As you can see in his postings, he was hit with quite a few troubles. The new owner is going to get signed up on here soon.
 
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Still don't have the proper vin#.

Something else is amiss... we'll have to wait then.


˙ʎ˙u ןןıq- „ǝןƃuɐ ʇuǝɹǝɟɟıp ɐ ɯoɹɟ pןɹoʍ ǝɥʇ ʇɐ ʞooן ɐ ƃuıʞɐʇ sı ǝɟıן oʇ ʇǝɹɔǝs ǝɥʇ„

Regis Widebody1990 Barth Regis Widebody
8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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Copy of the email johnnyb said I could post for the members of Barthmobile.


Kevin,
Well I finally got the Barth back to my office via tow truck. I replaced the back tires, had to put on 2 starting batteries, replaced a few fuses, bought a new universal joint, just to get the bearing caps. The tow company lost the originals! ​
After replacing these items, I fired her up and hit the road! She runs like a dream and drives great. I have a couple of
Prevost that my parents had and the Barth drives just as good and has a lot more power!!
I just got it finished and a retired friend of mine came by and wanted it, so I sold it to him. I am going to put him in touch with you.

When the new owner signs up, I will direct him to this topic. Computer
 
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