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Thought this was on here but did a search and nothing came up so am posting it for the record:

969 F.2d 421

1992-2 Trade Cases 69,906, 18 UCC Rep.Serv.2d 781

Lester SCHROEDER and Viola Schroeder, Plaintiffs-Appellants,
BARTH, INCORPORATED, Defendant-Appellee.

No. 91-1868.

United States Court of Appeals,
Seventh Circuit.

Argued Feb. 12, 1992.
Decided July 24, 1992.

Robert J. Palmer (argued), E. Spencer Walton, Jr., and Wendell Walsh, May, Oberfell & Lorber, South Bend, Ind., for plaintiffs-appellants.

David R. Kibbe, Barnes & Thornburg; and John T. Mulvihill (argued), South Bend, Ind., for defendant-appellee.

BAUER, Chief Judge,
POSNER, Circuit Judge,
FAIRCHILD, Senior Circuit Judge.

Lester and Viola Schroeder, an elderly couple, wanted nothing more than a reliable, comfortable motor home to provide them with transportation and housing on their leisurely travels around the country.
With that in mind, on March 13, 1981, they bought a 1981 Barth MCC Model 35 motor home from Motor Vacations Unlimited, of Elgin, Illinois, for $146,705.00.
The Schroeders took delivery of the vehicle in July 1981.
It came with a manufacturer's one year limited warranty.
Barely 2,600 miles and five months later, on December 3, 1981...


The 82 MCC {by Barth}
is not an rv--
it is a Motor Coach!!

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Interesting case. The owners claim the coach is worthless but don't give any proof. 10 years later, the claim is dismissed. I wonder what the problem was...

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Poor legal advice, but sixty one defects that total $2700 in repairs, including labor? Sounds frivolous to me.

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any pic's of the data tag..?

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Tom, you couldn't be more right. One must expect things to fix on new or used motor homes. If you think you will avoid this by buying a new coach, most likely, you will be disappointed.

Jim and TereJim and Tere

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How true. In '94, my wife's uncle bought a new Fleetwood Bounder (top-of-the-line at the time). It was in the shop - literally at the dealer's - for 14 months of the 30 months he endured it.

He finally, after waiting weeks for a new shower to be installed, told them he was leaving FL for Denver, and to ship the shower out there...and that's where he had it installed.


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