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Need some advice on replacing the rear air on my 1993 Breakaway,(Gillig chassis). Was hoping to here from Nick Cagle, or anyone else that has tackled this job. Would like to do it today as the weather is great here in East TN and I have two new Firestone air springs in hand. Please call 706-987-0701. Wondering how to pry them out and install the new ones without messing-up the threaded fasteners on top and bottom.
 
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My Barth with Neway suspension has four air bags, two front axle, and two on the rear axle. Nick's has four on the rear axle and two in the front? I do not know if your Gillig has Neway suspension. When they fixed mine at the shop they supported the bus and used porta power jacks to push the axle down then cut out the old air bags to make removal easier.

I did try to call you today but got no answer.


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found very detailed data
http://vicbushfield.com/pdf/RV...Catalog%202009_E.pdf

But the only how-to I can find pertains to the smaller Firestone Ride Rite (which I might put on my Class B because they were standard on later years of Pleasure-Way)
 
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What a chore! Finally got the air line off and the 90 degree fitting at the top of the spring with the aid of a mirror. Only had minimal amount of space to get a socket on that last nut. Had to wedge-up all the air lines and hoses that have been routed through the chassis rail that just happens to be directly above that last nut. Going to have to remove the shock absorber just to get the old air spring out. Thanks to all that contacted me. My confidence needed a boost in tackling this job. The $300.00 quote to replace the air springs,(labor only)from a local truck repair facility was quite a motivator when the frustration meter was pegged. I did get your message Kevin, thanks for responding.
 
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Easier for me to make the money in the summer. So I just pay. I can let you know if mine was more or less when I get the bill. How much were your bags each? Was the $300 for each side or installing both?

The front sway arms are still on order but the bags are installed along with the shocks!! Past Tents sits level!!

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Hello Kevin,

I paid $175.00 each for the air springs from Gillig. Will be tackling the second one on Monday. Got the first one in, but have an air leak at the fitting that plumbs into the top of the air spring,(found with soapy water test). Guess I should have went one more turn on the fitting,(did use Teflon tape on threads). About half way through the installation of the spring, I had decided I would let the truck facility do the second one. Have a better attitude about tackling the second one after taking a break this weekend. Something about the satisfaction of doing it myself gets me through some trying situations when turning wrenches.
 
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Gillig gave you a nice price on Firestone? always have to wonder if there are different quality lines. The shop where Past Tents is being serviced don't even like working on motorhome airbags. They are just difficult. One more time-on the install cost of $300, mechanic was that for the pair or each?

If the shocks are Koni check the build date maybe you should get new shocks too.


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Don't know if $175.00 was a good price or not. They originally quoted $194.00 each for the air spring. I asked for a discount and received one. The local truck repair facility wanted $150.00 to replace one air spring. $300.00 to do two of them. That was labor only as I was supplying the air springs.
 
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$150.00 to replace one air spring

mechanic I guess you have found out that is more than a two hour job. How long did it actually take you to remove and replace one bag? If it took you 5 hours you saved $150 or $30 per hour. mechanic

Big Grin My shop quoted me $250 each installed, but, that was only because the suspension was being removed any way. Thumbs Up
 
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Just removing and installing the first air bag was a full day. Of course a lot of that was just learning what was needed in tools and figuring out a procedure to follow. Spent a few hours on the blasted air line routed into the top of the spring. One of those situations where you are saying a few choice words about the designers of the system as you access it with a mirror and wrench. By your picture, there apparently is more room to access everything on your rig. I know the second one,(drivers side) will go easier.
 
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