Screen Removal Bargman L-300 Door Handle brakes Satellite Fuel Tank Fire Extinguishers Roof Antenna Tech Talk Forum Shortcut Motor Oil Window Generators headlights batteries Radiator AC Unit Grab Handle Wiper Blades Wiper Blades Door Locks Door Locks Door Locks Door Locks Rims Front Shocks Rear Shocks Front Tires Oil Filter Steps Roof Vent Awning Propane Tank Mirror Info Clearance Lights Clearance Lights Clearance Lights Clearance Lights Clearance Lights Spartan Chassis Gillig Chassis Freightliner Chassis P-32 Chassis MCC Chassis
    Forums    Tech Talk    Windshield Wiper Motor (Electric) R&R
Go to...
Start A New Topic
Search
Notify
Tools
Reply To This Topic
  
Windshield Wiper Motor (Electric) R&R
 Login now/Join our community
 
Supporting Member of Barthmobile.com 2/16
Captain Doom
Picture of Rusty
posted
Part 1 - Removal and Diagnosis

The windshield wipers on my Breakaway were pretty sloppy; I had to use a 2" shorter blade on the passenger side because the standard 20" kept hitting the molding and ripping.



These are the tools (and then some) you'll need (left to right): 10" adjustable wrench, 9/16" ratchet box, 9/16" box, 9/16" socket and drive, and 3/8" articulated drive. Top: Small gear puller.

The 9/16" box is useful for starting the bolts; the 9/16" ratchet box makes removal quite easy. The sockets are hard to use because of clearance and workroom.



Step 1: Remove the two nuts holding the main arm and follower arm on, and use the gear puller to remove the arm itself (the follower arm will come right off). Then use the gear puller to remove the splined cone. Pull the gasket and loosen (but do not yet remove the shaft securing nut.



Step 2: The motors are secured using the shaft securing nut and two bolts threaded into nuts welded onto the motor mount. The photo shows the passenger side motor with the inside (near) bolt already removed and the far one backed out. Note that these bolts are in slots (arrows) in the bracket for adjustment - they're open at the top - and you may be able to remove the motors without totally removing the bolts. Also note that the front of the coach is to the left in this photo.

Remove the shaft securing nut, and remove the motor.

Disconnect the wires, noting the position of each color.



Step 3: The drive link is held on by keyhole clips (Bottom side shown); lift the tab with a small screwdriver and slide back. They and the link have already been removed in the next photo.



I discovered the slop in my wipers was not totally caused by the drive link bushing wear. There were three locations with loose connections; 2 are shown here, the 3 motor mount bolts and the drive shaft nut were all quite loose.

Here the wiper shaft arm has been rotated to clear the motor mounting bolts (See below).



In addition, the wiper shaft securing screws were loose. Both these screws, the drive shaft nut, and the motor mounting bolts were dressed with Lok-Tite blue and tightened - after cleaning and lubing the wiper shaft, which will be in Part 2 (Step 4 and following).



This shows the electrical connectors; mine don't have intermittent, so only the left three are used. The ground is the motor case; these are all power. F: Fast speed (red wire); S: Slow speed (white wire); P: Park (black wire). If the wiper shaft arm doesn't clear the motor mounting bolts, touching 12VDC to the "S" termnal will allow you to nudge it out of the way.

Coming: Part 2, Cleaning, Lubing, Repair, and Reassembly.

BTW, if you're going to do this, order the 3.38" wiper links #49-217 from Rust Repair a/k/a Mill Supply


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
 
Posts: 7734 | Location: Brooker, FL, USA | Member Since: 09-08-2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Supporting Member of Barthmobile.com 2/16
Captain Doom
Picture of Rusty
posted Hide Post
Part 2, Cleaning, Lubing, Repair, and Reassembly.



Tools for Part 2 are simple: Large flat blade screwdrive, a smaller one, 7/16 wrench, small snap ring pliers, and Super Lube General Purpose Grease ($5 Harbor Freight - grab some of this whether or nor you're doing the wipers - is excellent stuff!)



Step 4: With the 7/16" wrench. loosen the 3 motor attachment bolts; you may have to nudge the eccentric crank out of the away. Use the large screwdriver to remove.



Step 5: With the smaller screwdriver, remove the 2 shaft attachment screws.



Step 6: With the snap ring pliers, remove the snap ring.

The shaft can now be removed. There will be at least one wavy washer and a flat washer. My two shafts were different. One had a wavy washer at the crank end; the other had a wavy and flat washer at the wiper end...

Step 7:
a. Clean the shaft with acetone, then
b. burnish with ~#400 sandpaper.
c. With a Q-tip dipped in acetone, clean the inside of the shaft housing.

Note that the shaft rides on a bronze bearing at each end of the housing.

d. With another Q-tip, apply grease to each bearing.
e. Coat the enitre shaft lightly with grease.

Reassembly reverses the disassembly process.

Check the nuts holding on both cranks/levers.

Step 8: Coat the posts on the cranks/levers lightly with grease; install the wiper link.

The best way to reinstall the keyhole clips is to place one over the post (don't forget the washer) and hold the open end down with your thumbnail; with your other hand, slide the clip into place.



While the motors are on the bench, chase the mounting bolt holes with a 3/8"-16 (NC) tap.


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
 
Posts: 7734 | Location: Brooker, FL, USA | Member Since: 09-08-2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Supporting Member of Barthmobile.com 6/12
Formally known as "Humbojb"
Picture of Jim and Tere
posted Hide Post
Talk about technical support. This is awesome detail Rusty. How did you write on the pics?
Tere


Jim and TereJim and Tere

1985 Regal
29' Chevy 454 P32
8411 3172 29FP3B
Gear Vendor 6 Speed Tranny
 
Posts: 3696 | Location: madisonville tn usa | Member Since: 02-19-2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Supporting Member of Barthmobile.com 2/16
Captain Doom
Picture of Rusty
posted Hide Post
I just used a small brush in Photoshop


Rusty


MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP; built-to-order by Peninsular Engines:  Hi-pop injectors, gear-driven camshaft, non-waste-gated, high-output turbo, 18:1 pistons.  Fuel economy increased by 15-20%, power, WOW!"StaRV II"

'94 28' Breakaway: MilSpec AMG 6.5L TD 230HP

Nelson and Chester, not-spoiled Golden Retrievers

Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not.
In either case the idea is quite staggering.
- Arthur C. Clarke

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I've been searching thirty years to find her and thank her - W. C. Fields
 
Posts: 7734 | Location: Brooker, FL, USA | Member Since: 09-08-2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Supporting Member of Barthmobile.com 6/17
Picture of Richard_Muise
posted Hide Post
Rusty,
The procedure worked great, except for my shaft being pressed on (no retaining ring).

Thanks again.


R.P.Muise 1994 Breakaway/Cummins 5.9/Allison transmission/Spartan Chassis
 
Posts: 662 | Location: Hampden, Massachusetts | Member Since: 10-13-2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
posted Hide Post
Hello everybody, I know that this is an old posting,
I was wondering if anybody has a part number or info
for these wiper motors ?
Driver’s side been working but it quits after while and I want to replace both of them and then check the relays and
wiring.

Thank You
 
Posts: 43 | Location: Houston Texas  | Member Since: 12-03-2019Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Official Barth Junkie
Supporting Member of Barthmobile.com 1/24
Picture of Steve VW
posted Hide Post
There is some discussion here and some photos. A link to a supplier, Defender.

https://www.barthmobile.com/ev...693976097#4693976097

Let us know what you find! Thumbs Up


9708-M0037-37MM-01
"98" Monarch 37
Spartan MM, 6 spd Allison
Cummins 8.3 325+ hp
 
Posts: 5160 | Location: Kalkaska, MI | Member Since: 02-04-2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
posted Hide Post
Hello All,
Rico, approximately six months ago, I purchased a new Wexco Industries H131 wiper motor assembly from EBay for our '93 Breakaway. The EBay seller's name was "Ironwingsales". The cost was $50.00 plus $12.00 shipping. The motor appeared to be an exact replacement & after installation(with no modifications) worked as it should. You might want to put aside an extra $10.00 for band-ads & a tube of Bacitracin Zinc because as I recall, it's quite a long reach & our motor was nestled in a space surrounded by sharp edges.

Good Luck,
John
 
Posts: 55 | Location: Central Pa. | Member Since: 03-24-2019Reply With QuoteReport This Post
  Powered by Social Strata  
 

    Forums    Tech Talk    Windshield Wiper Motor (Electric) R&R

This website is dedicated to the Barth Custom Coach, their owners and those who admire this American made, quality crafted, motor coach.
We are committed to the history, preservation and restoration of the Barth Custom Coach.