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10-22-2009, 09:15 PM
Diane & Wayne
Brake problem
put everthing new in master cylinder,booster and brake lines. Bled brakes and still can't stop. Its a 90 with a 460 eng.Brake pad are good.Need help asap.
Thanks
Wayne
10-22-2009, 09:55 PM
Bill N.Y.
you have what i have - i did replace my master cylinder - i have 4 wheel disc brakes on mine and it stops very well - issues causing defective braking are easy to figure out if you dont just throw money at it - let me explain...

the way it is now for some...
mech: you have weak brakes
cust: what causes this?
mech: it could be a master cylinder
cust: how much
mech: 500

how it should be...
mech: you have weak brakes
cust: what causes this?
mech: i need to diagnose it at 70 an hour to tell you for sure
cust: ok - let me know what you find

if you find yourself talking to the first mechanic you are talking to a parts changer - if you find yourself talking to the second mechanic, you are talking to a technician

also, real technicians take pride in their diagnosis - they do not want to be wrong - they check it out completely

what causes weak brakes in a hydro-boost system? air in system, defective master cylinder, swelling brake hoses, glazed brake pads, bad proportioning valve, bad hyd booster, bad pivot linkage, seized calipers on the sliders, etc...

the technician will isolate, diagnose, research and then fix the problem - lets say after all this he states - bad master cylinder, the typical response from most people would be... can you believe that he charged me 570 for a master cylinder?

lets say it was bad linkage that took 2 hours to find - the typical response from most people would be... can you believe he charged me 165 for a 25 pivot pin?

steer yourself to a reputable technician and pay for proper diagnosis.


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10-22-2009, 10:22 PM
jsloan
Bill, Thats a lot of typing for someone on the mend Wink


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10-22-2009, 10:31 PM
Bill N.Y.
thats the short version


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Regis Widebody1990 Barth Regis Widebody
8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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10-23-2009, 12:13 AM
Rusty
quote:
what causes weak brakes in a hydro-boost system? air in system, defective master cylinder, swelling brake hoses, glazed brake pads, bad proportioning valve, bad hyd booster, bad pivot linkage, seized calipers on the sliders, etc...


Add: Weak power steering pump, swelling P/S lines, grease/oil on pads, having been cursed by a VooDoo Priest, etc.

As Bill said, it's not something where you should rely on speculation.

Also, it's a good idea to list your coach's specs in your signature, so we'll know what is being dealt with.


Rusty


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10-23-2009, 05:48 AM
Bill N.Y.
here you go rusty. they have the 36 foot 460 ford tag


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8908 0128 40RDS-C1
L-10 Cummins
Allison MT647 Transmission
Spartan Chassis
Regal Conversion1991 Medical Lab Conversion
9102 3709 33S-12
Ford 460 MPFI
C6 Transmission
Oshkosh Chassis



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